Imeeji Idol Productions ([personal profile] idolpro) wrote2018-09-22 03:36 pm
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POISON GAME: BAD END=DEAD END

[ The room is plain, white walls and white ceiling, except for the steel-panel flooring. There are three metal stands rising out of openings in the floor, each of which carries a glass vial on top. One of them just holds water. Of the remaining two, one contains a pale pink, opaque liquid with a creamy consistency; the next is tinged barely yellow like a weak tea, and would be almost completely transparent but for the pulp and fibers mixed in, drifting through it.

Both have flowers floated across the surface: the first a tiny sprinkling of cherry blossom petals; the second a small, but whole, bloomed lotus. They're cute and smell nice. ]
awakenerd: (19)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for him but I don't think it was out of spite.
justfuckingtryit: (The winter evening settles down)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
He wouldn't even speak for him. Don't you fucking defend him if he didn't have an excuse.
awakenerd: (94)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I like him a lot but I'm not going to pretend he's not an asshole. But he's a really awkward asshole who sucks as emotions and probably wouldn't defend himself whatever his reasons.
justfuckingtryit: (That are raising dingy shades)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Seems like a pretty big benefit of the doubt to give for some douche who straight up murdered someone.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
You were there Thorn. There's a big difference between murder and murder in defense of yourself or another. Do I think he did the right thing? Hell no. He could have given Cardigan time. Do I think he's a vile villain for wanting to protect his own unit and being too trigger happy about it...? No. I don't. I just think he's an idiot.

That's not something to condemn someone for. Everyone fucks up. Bad End has fucked up before, we will again.

Whisky, the guy who waited on Wild City? He's probably way more of a ruthless person than Yasuragi, he's just also more predictable, because he doesn't feel emotions right. Do you think that killing Cardigan was a calculated move? Because I can only view it as stupid and emotional.
justfuckingtryit: (Of faint stale smells of beer)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Damn straight I was there. And what I saw was murder.

Everyone else had the fucking decency to wait. Everyone else gave the unit they were up against a fighting chance.
awakenerd: (47)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone else hadn't just watched someone burn to death the round before. It's not called panic when you're making rational and calm, unemotional decisions.
justfuckingtryit: (As the street hardly understands)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
He couldn't have waited fifteen fucking minutes?
awakenerd: (48)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Look I'm not defending him, but I'm saying thinking he's emotionless or heartless is... It's kind of the opposite.
justfuckingtryit: (That are raising dingy shades)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's not an excuse.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Is there any excuse here, Thorn? We're all put in the same shitty situation with the same choices. Of course I think everyone should have more faith in the people around them, should give more of a chance, should be more willing to trust and forgive and fight to stay optimistic.

But part of that, I think, is not falling into the trap, and it's definitely an engineered trap, of condemning people for the choices they make when the gun is pressed to all our heads.

My first bad game with this unit we made a mistake that cost someone on Taisho and AlcheME each, permanently. We fucked up really bad and our only defense was we didn't mean to, which is a shitty defense.

It's easy to point at someone else and ask why didn't you do better when everyone else had no problem with it? But... I don't think it's ever that simple, I don't think it ever will be, and blaming each other for cracking under the pressure of this place isn't going to help any of us. We don't have to agree with, like, or even defend bad decisions. But I think if we stop having compassion and trying to understand them, we're not just letting ourselves get set up to fail by the hosts here, we're helping them do it.
Edited 2018-09-23 05:00 (UTC)
justfuckingtryit: (Of faint stale smells of beer)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
...so, what? We just look the other way when people make dick moves and get other people killed?

I get it, okay? We're jumping through their hoops, and they want us to be shitty to each other. That's why it's so fucked that that asshole walked right into their plan.
awakenerd: (54)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
No. But I'd rather talk it out than make threats, you know? But... That's me. And I'm not going to tell you what to do either, if you ever feel like you need to do something.
justfuckingtryit: (That are raising dingy shades)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Good. Cause if I ever feel like I need to do something, I'm just going to do it.
awakenerd: (36)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] awakenerd 2018-09-23 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure that's how we all are. But I think if you ever needed support we'd be here too.
justfuckingtryit: (The winter evening settles down)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] justfuckingtryit 2018-09-23 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry. I'm not planning on getting myself into something I can't handle.