Going by numbers alone, three of us support the defense of sensitIV. However, if we were to remove all units from the pool that others fine reprehensible, that would take sensitIV and Bad End, Dead End off the table, leaving us instead with future is now, pep pep, ☆ZRAEL, and AlcheME. Of those four, Maki is presently arguing for future is now, while you wish for pep pep.
Sol. If you wish to save them, believe in the strength of your feelings and speak your mind. If you give up now, you will not see them through this trial to safety.
I don't know for sure that no one else will defend them. I can't promise they won't be okay if we don't choose them. I can't state that sort of thing with any sort of certainty-- that would be a lie, and I don't want to lie to all of you.
Of course I want to save them. I want to save her...! But... It's not less important than you wanting to save sensitIV! And if sensitIV doesn't make it after all, while three of you wanted to defend them, then... What kind of person would that make me? Someone who steps over other people's desires with false logic, just to get what I want?
SensitIV has already been vetoed. If I cannot save the unit that has done so much for me, and forgiven me for so much, I wish for us to save a unit that is near and dear to someone's heart. I believe in the strength of your feelings— all the much more so because of your kindness. You wish to withdraw and let the rest of us take precedent, but even so your feelings are strong enough that you cannot help but utter the name of the unit you truly wish to save. It is not false logic, Sol. Your heart's desire is as strong as any of ours.
We have no way of knowing that. There is the possibility that everyone will assume a beloved unit is covered, leaving them with no defense, so assured are we that certainly someone else will take care of it.
Even if it turns out to be useless in the end, I cannot wish for us to simply leave it to chance. If that is how it turns out, I will not begrudge you it.
If no one else finds consensus, I will save them. If that is how it ends up, it is better that someone be saved, than no one at all. But I am not the only person here with loved ones worth defending.
Well... I can't tell if pep pep will be in danger or not. And if possible, I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to Sho either.
[glances at shu]
But if something happens to Sunset, or to sensitIV when so many people on our unit wanted to protect them and are taking a step back because of us, I'll regret it more.
Your worldview is so convenient. How can you say you're not manipulative when you naturally say things like that? We're talking about people's lives and feelings here! This can't be about odds or hunches! You're being disrespectful to literally everyone else in this room who wants to protect someone by saying something like that!
This isn't about manipulation or disrespect! That's how I feel! The person I—
[she breaks off briefly choked, and then after a shaky breath, continues]
—think I love—is probably going to die, and I want to save him, and I'm not going to stay quiet and go along with what everyone else thinks when that's how things are! I don't care how futile this is, because no one's going to agree with me! I'm not going to sit down and say nothing!
And I have nothing against you wanting to save Intensity, Maki. But everyone has people they love on other units, and everyone might die because it's impossible to know for sure and you know that. We've talked about mistakes before. You know that. Getting mad at others for feeling as strongly as you and not changing their minds to put the people you care about first is completely unfair no matter what.
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Going by numbers alone, three of us support the defense of sensitIV. However, if we were to remove all units from the pool that others fine reprehensible, that would take sensitIV and Bad End, Dead End off the table, leaving us instead with future is now, pep pep, ☆ZRAEL, and AlcheME. Of those four, Maki is presently arguing for future is now, while you wish for pep pep.
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Of course I want to save them. I want to save her...! But... It's not less important than you wanting to save sensitIV! And if sensitIV doesn't make it after all, while three of you wanted to defend them, then... What kind of person would that make me? Someone who steps over other people's desires with false logic, just to get what I want?
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Even if they might not need it? You'd be fine with that?
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Even if it turns out to be useless in the end, I cannot wish for us to simply leave it to chance. If that is how it turns out, I will not begrudge you it.
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Thank you. But you're right, and... maybe sensitIV shouldn't be vetoed.
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he is not calm at all but he's trying]
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...I don't... want to tell you you can't save the people you care about. Even if I don't feel the same.
But I really... think future is now is in danger.
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[glances at shu]
But if something happens to Sunset, or to sensitIV when so many people on our unit wanted to protect them and are taking a step back because of us, I'll regret it more.
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[swallows back whatever she was going to say]
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You will what?
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Your worldview is so convenient. How can you say you're not manipulative when you naturally say things like that? We're talking about people's lives and feelings here! This can't be about odds or hunches! You're being disrespectful to literally everyone else in this room who wants to protect someone by saying something like that!
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[she breaks off briefly choked, and then after a shaky breath, continues]
—think I love—is probably going to die, and I want to save him, and I'm not going to stay quiet and go along with what everyone else thinks when that's how things are! I don't care how futile this is, because no one's going to agree with me! I'm not going to sit down and say nothing!
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