Imeeji Idol Productions ([personal profile] idolpro) wrote2022-06-25 10:24 am

WILD CITY

[ You stand in the middle of a mad scientist's laboratory. ]

childeishly: (pic#14697699)

Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] childeishly 2022-06-25 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
No. As someone who plays pretend regularly I can tell you from experience it only gets you so far.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] purestdust 2022-06-25 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you say a baby is able to learn simply on its own, without any outside input?
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] childeishly 2022-06-25 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I never said 'no' outside influence. But also babies have instincts. All creatures do and they don't need the environment to tell them to eat, hunt, and survive. That sort of stuff is hardwired into them. You throw somebody into a pit and they'll do whatever it takes to get out... die trying, if need be.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] purestdust 2022-06-25 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[ he shakes his head ]

Instinct is no different than what animals have. But if we are talking humanity, then it is something that has to be taught.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] childeishly 2022-06-25 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's half true. Some things are just a part of a person, and I do think humanity is one of them... it's why a person can lose their humanity in the first place. But the concepts of humanity can't certainly be built upon from outside sources, since there is a lot to it.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] purestdust 2022-06-25 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I cannot agree with that. Outside sources are an important building block. Without them, it is unlikely to understand what humanity is.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] childeishly 2022-06-25 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be honest. I think the answer is both, but that's not a choice. I don't think that one or the other is a suitable start for a robot, a human, a creature, or a whatever. It's like nature vs. nurture. But this is a game, so we have to make a choice, and based on my own experience I've said what I personally prefer.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] purestdust 2022-06-25 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Both would be a much more preferable answer.

I have no interest in trying to change your mind on which to pick. But I do find the conversation fascinating.
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Re: DISCUSSION

[personal profile] childeishly 2022-06-25 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I think both *are* important, and just because I'm arguing for one side I don't want you thinking I don't see the importance of the other.

[ childe smirks. ] Good, because I have no intention of changing my mind. [ now he's just being an ass. ] I'm not sure I'd go *that* far, probably because this kind of thing reminds me of somebody I'm not too fond of.